WHEN updating his authoritative history of Merseyside's oldest professional football club, Everton: The School of Science, international football writer James Corbett travelled up from his London home to return to his home city to interview David Moyes in his Finch Farm office.
During their lengthy conversation regarding the Scot's near-nine-year-reign at Goodison Park, Corbett asked Moyes if he 'used to' work 16-hour days when establishing himself as Everton manager.
It remains a question - and answer - that will stick with the author for a long time.
He recalls: 'For the only time his eyes fixed into that famous icy stare. 'I do,' he interrupted, not liking the implication that he is slacking.
'I do every day.If I don't work that hard then somebody else will be overtaking me. Someone else will be taking my job. I have to work every day, every week as if it's my last.'
Corbett admits that while he had always admired the current incumbent in the Goodison Park hotseat from afar - his work for World Football Insider as European Correspondent mean that his own team aren't always 'on his beat' - he could not help but be impressed when meeting Moyes face-to-face.
He said: 'Moyes has an ambition and a desire to win whatever the odds might be against him.